Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 19th
17:15:19 GMT
How?

Brian, I hoped that we would deliberately NOT consider the "how?" at this point in time. Until we
have decided that we will indeed go down the integration road then the "how?" is just pointless
conjecture. I think we need to resolve the main issue before we consider topics that would
undoubtedly follow a decision to proceed. I'd prefer not to 'muddy the waters' with discussions
about secondary issues at this point in time.

I would dearly like to hear Adam's thoughts on the proposal. After all, Adam is the person most
effected by a decision to proceed and he also holds the power to veto the proposal.


Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

July 19th
16:46:16 GMT
League (Re)Construction

A question just came to me based on the recent poll and discussions: If the two leagues were combined into one mega league
(4 or 5 divisions), how would we as a community, and Adam as our leader, determine which divisions teams would be placed?

I'm still firmly against the idea, but thought I would put this part of the equation out for all to ponder.


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

July 17th
19:29:45 GMT
Lies, damned lies and statistics

Only 2 competitive teams in Evo?
Well, there are certainly two who have a higher T11 than the chasing pack. But that pack of 9 teams all on 24.0 or above for their T11 is better than the best of the 36 teams on origin who only have 8 teams on 24.0 or higher.
I would say that Evo is 11 highly competitive teams with 2 currently slightly ahead.
Origin is only 8 teams with 1 having a T11 advantage. Which if you look at the league result made next to no difference. ABE only lost out 'cos we Pressed half our matches to get GD up!
Steve Allan
Aberdon F.C.

July 17th
17:31:41 GMT
Nailed to the Fence

I fully expected myself to be in the "leave it" camp but im slightly swayed by Stew's argument
that there are only 2 competitive teams in the Evo side of the league. It's strange because some
of the managers over there are very competitive in other leagues so it's not due to a lack of
"ability".

I think everyone is in agreement that the managerless teams need to be taken care of, that would
maybe add a little more balance into the trade and auction markets..which to me are still
struggling to find their place.
Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 17th
11:07:45 GMT
On The Spot

Roy, you've put me on the spot here, but I'll try to give you an answer. Before I start I want to
make it clear that my intention is not to be derisory or disrespectful towards any club. If my
words give offense then I'm truly sorry.

The last three Evolution seasons have been a dog fight between TED and SPT and I think that will
continue next season, as you said Roy. However, a two horse race doesn't fill me with excitement,
even when I win it. I have looked on in envy at the Origin title races and have thought to myself,
"Wow, it would have been good to have been part of that. Imagine TED and SPT competing in that
division!"

I still enjoy the game, so I'll keep plugging along, but its only The Manager Cup that excites me
at the moment.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 17th
10:32:31 GMT
Less is More?

When I have considered joining a football management game of any kind, the number of divisions in
the game has been an important factor in my decision making. Personally, I prefer more divisions
for the reasons outlined in my journal post. I don't think I have ever joined a game which
consisted of just one division and have thought long and hard before joining any with just two
(Robin took 6 months to persuade me to join Sanctuary!). The time to reach the top division has
never been a factor for me. I just try and build the best club I can and see where it takes me. I
enjoy working my way up through the divisions. However, I admit that it never occurred to me that
participating in the top flight might be a key consideration for others. I take your points.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 17th
10:24:37 GMT
First Time?

I asked the question about possible league integration a few seasons ago when Clarkston was moved
from the Evolution League into the Origin League. I also asked Adam to consider moving TED if a
similar opportunity presented itself in the future.


Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

July 17th
00:17:58 GMT
League Stuff(s)

Stewart,

I find your question-as-the-answer humorous (in a good way). Well played, sir.

I don't want to reiterate David and Roy's comments; I feel both have hit upon valid points (especially David's notation of time required to
climb from a bottom division to top - 2.5 years minimum seems a huge investment, something that might legitimately turn some
managers off).

As I've said before, I personally really enjoy two distinct leagues that get to play in the Manager Cup only. While I am eager to face the
Gers, I appreciate the fact it may not happen right away. It would be fun if Barca could play Man City a couple of times per year, but it's
not going to happen outside the Champions League. I think that's just part of football.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 16th
21:08:44 GMT
League Restructure

Hi Brian, I've attempted to answer your question in a new journal post as 'The Blog' doesn't
afford me sufficient characters to respond properly.

Allow me to reflect your question back at you. Why would you be against integration? Don't you
think the Evolution teams would make a worthwhile contribution to an integrated league? Is the
Origin League considered to be a 'closed shop' where 'newbies' are not welcomed? Okay, that last
one is a bit tongue in cheek, but I'd like to understand why you'd want the two leagues to remain
separate.


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

July 16th
20:58:21 GMT
League Tinkering

The question asks if it's time to 'seriously' consider it.
Umm, it's basically never come up before so it's not like it's been light heartedly considered.
Plus, it also tries to imply it's something major that is broken and needs fixed.
It's not.

At the moment it takes 1 1/2 years to go from Division 3 to a full season in Division 1 for origin. If we take 5 divisions it'll take 2 1/2 years. Longer if you don't get promotion every single time.

I think it'll make it too cumbersome. We could look at 2 leagues with 3 divisions of ten teams in each. That would maintain 60 teams and give division 3 managers a realistic chance of competing at the top of their division 1 within 2 years or so. Still a major time investment but it could be done.
Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

July 16th
15:44:25 GMT
League Restructure

Stewart,

Do you not enjoy the two separate leagues? What do you not like about the current system? How do you feel a league
restructure that puts all teams into one league improves the status quo?

Just curious where this comes from.

Cheers!


Mike Parnaby
Huascaran Heights

July 16th
13:59:04 GMT
Poll

I like Stewart's poll idea. I am in favour of restructure depending on how many clubs are unmanaged. If it is just a couple, then of course, it cannot happen. But if there are 10 or more then to me it makes sense to restructure if possible.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 15th
07:58:44 GMT
New Poll Alert

At the fifth attempt I've managed to get my Poll up and running. It asks you to consider the
possibility of league reconstruction.

Note that at this point in time I'm only trying to gauge general managerial opinion on the
possibility of league reconstruction. I am NOT attempting to address the mechanics by which that
might happen. That would be for another time if the vote was "YES" and Adam agreed that it was
feasible. I have also not considered the programming requirements and Adam's time to facilitate
such a change, which I appreciate might be prohibitive. I am also not putting a timescale on
reconstruction, but if there was a positive response, perhaps it could take place at the end of
Season 40.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 15th
07:45:52 GMT
Fulham?

David, I think you've mixed up two different posts. Robin manages, or managed WCR, whereas Colin
is having difficulties corresponding with Fulham.

Colin, if it's any consolation I haven't had any responses to my communication attempts with
Fulham either.


Matt Cooper
Hamilton Invaders

July 14th
17:04:16 GMT
Hamilton Invaders Tempted by Offer

Matt Cooper announces interest from a club for the following assets.

Michael Kohlhaas 2/25 GK


They are considering the deal on the table but would welcome other clubs to come forward as soon as possible with a challenging offer.


Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

July 14th
15:11:12 GMT
Old Colony F.C. Tempted by Offer

Brian Beerman announces interest from a club for the following assets.

Milliken Smith 5/22 DM


They are considering the deal on the table but would welcome other clubs to come forward as soon as possible with a challenging offer.


Simon Kendrew
Dynamo City

July 14th
11:36:44 GMT
Voting

David it looks like only one vote is needed to register in the Voting Results
I have only said I'd like to beat Roy's St Pauli


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

July 14th
10:15:00 GMT
Voting

I have cast votes in all divisions.
I can see that 19 other managers have voted too.
If you only vote in 1 or 2 divisions does your club appear on that list.
Also, are you able to see the list?
When I was only part way through I couldn't see who else had voted.
David King
Unsporting Lisbon

July 14th
10:05:22 GMT
Fulham

Appear to have a manager. Or was Robin
managing another team?
Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

July 13th
22:45:30 GMT
Robin

Not sure he'll be returning next season, he mentioned getting mixed up about Ageing over in OASL this
week, saying he'd got it confused with The Manager which he'd left now.
One of Simon's trade offers is with WCR - pity I can't log in there either.


Colin Scott
Sparta Partick

July 13th
21:07:36 GMT
Roy

Can you sign at Fulham and answer my inbox AND trade offer please!
Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 13th
07:40:21 GMT
Oops

Teddies with a bright green kit? Somehow I don't think so. The club would never sanction such a
suggestion and The Bears certainly wouldn't tolerate it.


Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

July 12th
22:24:14 GMT
Oops

Simon asked me to have a look at his trade deals to see what I thought of them as he hasn't had any
takers yet. I saw the recent comments on Kit design and forgot i was logged in to his account.
So that was my post, as obviously he didn't vote last season.


Simon Kendrew
Dynamo City

July 12th
22:17:04 GMT
Kit

I just vote for the ones I like, usually using all 5 votes per division

Last season one manager won their divisions poll with an entirely black kit. No design.
Which is fine - the questions are about which ones you'd wear for a night out etc
Black shirt for a night out - it's a good choice
I'm looking forward to voting for the Teddy's away strip next season, which I'm hoping will be as
close to the Nigerian's bright green 'home' kit for the World Cup



Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

July 12th
22:04:46 GMT
Dr Martins

As in the great manager Kevin (Dr) Martin from MSWL-United?


Colin Scott
Sparta Partick

July 12th
21:37:11 GMT
What

...if
Imagine your real life team won an important trophy in 1992. The Doctor Martins League perhaps, and you still love the kit.
Jonathan Miles
Warley Bromwich Albion

July 12th
13:51:09 GMT
re Kit

Colin, if you are basing your kit on a real life team and that team changes their kit then maybe
you will change yours too, surely that also could be a valid reason.
Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

July 12th
11:35:17 GMT
Poll Gremlins?

I think that the Poll gremlins are afoot once more. I just tried to initiate a new Poll but it
wouldn't take. Tried four times without success.


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