Colin Scott
Sparta Partick

October 18th
12:13:27 GMT
Cup

Rules were probably correct when there were 6 divisions but we are now down to 5 with fewer overall teams and
thereforeless teams competing in the Manager Cup
David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 18th
09:46:43 GMT
Cup

Throw your match but avoid a blow out.
Rest up for your league matches.
Jonathan Miles
Warley Bromwich Albion

October 18th
08:50:55 GMT
Scraping into 4th place?

David, good advice for those that could still scrape into the knock out place in the cup, but
what about those of us who still can not?
David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 17th
11:58:06 GMT
Manager Cup

Yeah, it used to have the correct information. I suspect a slightly botched cut n' paste job is to blame.
The League Cup used to be The Manager Cup.
The Manager Cup used to be The John Brown Cup, I think.
So the info was correct when The Manager Cup was the name for The League up.

Your suggestion for the rule book is the original text I'm pretty sure.
Hopefully that'll be updated for next season.

To any managers who might be thinking they're out of the cup. You're not!
Submit those final teams, see if you can scrape into 4th place and snatch those knock-out cup positions.

Good luck and may the force b...

Sorry, was watching the trailer and stuff.
Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 17th
08:56:49 GMT
Manager Cup Qualifiers

I've been assuming that the top two qualify as per page 5 of the rule book:

"Top 2 teams always qualify from each group and will be joined by the best 3rd placed teams.
(Pts., GD, GF, DPs)."

However, that won't produce the required 32 teams for the first knock out round. Should the rule
book be amended to state:

Top 3 teams always qualify from each group and will be joined by the best two 4th placed teams.
(Pts., GD, GF, DPs)?


Steve Allan
Aberdon F.C.

October 15th
15:28:07 GMT
A Brief Moment

I think you just need to look at the overall league T11 and T16 rankings to realise that whatever
advantage origin had has been whittled away.
David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 15th
13:43:54 GMT
A brief moment

With both leagues using identical rules and having access to identical resources I would expect the
lead to change often and be neck and neck most of the time.
Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 15th
08:37:11 GMT
Cup Semi-Finals

Seven of the managers involved have now voted in Adam's poll. I suspect that GCK are currently
without a manager so all votes might now have been cast. The count is 5-2 in favour of replaying USL
v IAC only, so I would expect Adam to announce a final decision when he returns from holiday.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 15th
08:19:32 GMT
A Brief Moment

It may have passed unnoticed to most but at the conclusion of Match 25 on Friday the Evolution
League headed the Origin League for the first time, albeit by just one victory . However, normality
returned after Match 26 and Origin have regained the advantage, but the gap is closing!


Paul Roseblade
Kaisayr

October 14th
16:02:52 GMT
Part Two

If I knew about the blowouts gaining money it would make no difference to my team. Can't remember I blowed out against
anyone or vice versa against us.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 14th
15:18:37 GMT
Cup Groups

Too true, Paul and David! Groups D and E are also very tight with three points separating the top
from the bottom so there is still a real possibility that any two or three teams could still
progress from these two groups. So far I've managed to post possession values of 11.8% v 0.1%,
11.3% v 2.8% and 12.7% v 1.3% in my three games which have seen me win one comfortably, lose one
badly, and scrape through in another. Possession percentages just don't appear to matter so
definitely, any team can beat any other team irrespective of comparative strengths.


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 14th
14:20:15 GMT
Cup

A fair point about a competitive group.
It's going into that final game knowing that even if you push for the win you have to hope other results go your way. That's a dilemma.
But any team can beat any other team in this game if they get the luck.
Paul Roseblade
Kaisayr

October 14th
12:31:14 GMT
The Manager Cup - The Group of (J)eath

3 points separate 1st and 6th place with only a couple of games to go. So anyone could still go through. The plus points are
that you get a chance to progress and win the cup. The negatives all teams will use up vital EL to progress leaving them with
a lower EL total going back to league business.


Jonathan Miles
Warley Bromwich Albion

October 13th
12:19:46 GMT
Tempting offer - see below for details...

Brian Beerman
Old Colony F.C.

October 12th
22:21:34 GMT
Orgullo Atlético Tempted by Offer

Jose,

What exactly is your team tempted by? Seems to be nothing at the moment. ;)


Jose Augusto
Orgullo Atlético

October 12th
18:57:08 GMT
Orgullo Atlético Tempted by Offer

Jose Augusto announces interest from a club for the following assets.



They are considering the deal on the table but would welcome other clubs to come forward as soon as possible with a challenging offer.
Richard Burnett
Inbhir Narainn

October 12th
07:12:00 GMT
trade list

We have 3CP surplus to requirements - happy to sell for the going rate of 90k per CP. Also have a
5/13DF that must be able to do a job somewhere for the rest of the season, listed at 75k but
happy to be negotiated down slightly on that one.


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 10th
11:38:44 GMT
HA

We're trying to avoid HA and homer refs and so on.
The neutral cup game route seems to be the best.
I'm sure we'll get the matches squeezed in in plenty of time for the finals at match 44.
As long as all involved get a few matches notice so we can squad rotate properly.
Excluding random injuries and suspensions which there's no accounting for and is part of the reason we have a squad of players to choose from.
An inability to play aggression may also be a problem. Some teams seem to rely on Aggressive play.....MVV.
Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

October 10th
11:16:01 GMT
Advantage

Looking at my two pre-season friendlies I had standard HA of 8 playing at home.
Whilst teams wouldn't be able to play aggressively they could safely play players into negative EL without risking injury


Steve Allan
Aberdon F.C.

October 10th
09:25:53 GMT
Option 4

Still doesn't solve the issue of how to decide who goes through if it ends in a draw. Plus not
sure whether HA counts during friendlies but that might just be me not paying much attention.
Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

October 9th
18:39:52 GMT
Option 4

Would it be possible to play a second leg as a friendly?
That would cut down on gates, stop coaching, prevent a home bonus being paid and preserve EL.
Or is there something in the coding stopping the next round being arranged manually?


Adam Meney
Sitan Dama

October 9th
11:28:26 GMT
Olmec

Option 3 is possible on the olmec platform. You are correct Sir. It knows when
it's a 2 leg affair and acts accordingly.

When I rewrote the software for The Manager I did not code this in as it was
never going to be a feature of this league.

I felt it in necessarily extended the season and really boosted the successful
teams even further with extra gates and coaching slots etc.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 9th
10:20:02 GMT
DF Price Reduction

TED have today reduced the asking price for their 5/17 DF. We will now accept 150K or 75K + 1CP or
2CPs.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 9th
10:14:11 GMT
Option 3

If those involved thought it to be the best option, I'm sure that something could be worked out.
For example as a suggestion:

1. Set up the games with home advantage for IAC, AFC, COB and GCK.
2. Play the games.
3. Manually calculate the aggregate scores and ignore the "away goals" rule. Aggregate winners
qualify for their respective finals.
4. If there is a draw on aggregate ask Steve Turner to perform the manual penalty shoot-out
procedure which he has just done to resolve a similar issue that occurred with the SESL Cup Final.
Of course, assuming that Steve is willing to take on such a role (apologies Steve, and apologies
to Colin for even suggesting such a thing!).

I am of course assuming that the above is possible for Adam to set up.


Colin Scott
Sparta Partick

October 8th
20:45:26 GMT
Not sure

if it's the title of the song but I have Totally Automatic going round in my head. In other OLMEC type leagues the program just
knows when it's a two leg cup tie - the McBride Cup (1st round) and the CECIL Cup in Sanc and SESL respectively. Must be
different code but don't ask me as I don't even know what a seed is!
Adam Meney
Sitan Dama

October 8th
19:45:19 GMT
Semis

That was the first place I went to as well when I saw that homefields were used. Sadly option 3 is a
non starter as the code does not support 2 legs in a cup match. No way of setting shootout nor away
goals.


Adam Meney
Sitan Dama

October 8th
19:43:26 GMT
Blowouts

Will be looks into when I get back from holidays. Loose to be wrong at first glance.


James Tucker
Orpington Inkspots

October 8th
17:42:35 GMT
Blowouts

Indeed Orpington did receive 100K for their blowout. And entirely justified to. The salt
rubbing into an open wound of conceding 6 goals (one a penalty) with an SL20 keeper when we
cannot score for toffee. Managing an appalling 11 from 113 shots in the league. In the next
cup match we managed one goal with a 9.2 - 8.4% chance from 8 shots against SL26. So for the
repeated pain of not being able to hit a barn door with a banjo and seeing our net bulge when
anyone gets anywhere near, the 100K is entirely justified recompense.


David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 8th
11:23:30 GMT
Part Two

Roy, Stewart.
Go and check the lineups submitted for the non-penalised Blow-out games.
That should let you understand the lack of a penalty.

On the other front, teams gaining 100k for Blowing Out, I guess this sheds some light on the Roseblade brothers unusual EL management tactics in recent seasons :-)

David King
Unsporting Lisbon

October 8th
11:11:47 GMT
Blowouts

It always used to be 100k so I'm not sure if that's a typo in the rule book or an update that's not been coded properly.
It also used to be 2 CP were deducted first and only if they weren't available would it deduct money.
Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

October 8th
10:26:08 GMT
Blowouts

So looks like a coding issue as it should be 120k.
WBA also added 100k to their accounts after blowing out vs Unsporting
Clarkston however didn't get get one losing 8-0 to Asteria and Ashburton's loss doesn't have any post-
match comments either


Roy Rolsten
St Pauli Pirates

October 8th
10:22:44 GMT
Blowout Rules

Blowouts
To discourage managers from fielding line-ups that are too weak, whenever a club loses by 6 or more
goals and their average total
SL over 90 minutes is less than 50% of their team's total SL, that club is said to have been ‘blown
out’.
Out of position and aggression is not figured, just the player's actual SL. In addition, in
calculating the ‘team total SL’, ONLY players
who are at EL 0 or higher and NOT suspended will be counted. Injured/suspended players will not be
considered as those players
could not play in the match anyway.
The team that suffers a blowout is fined 120k. This can be contested in writing with evidence of
best endeavours to win the game
to the league's commissioner. The first place the commissioner will look it’s the percentage
available SL used in the match.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 8th
07:36:33 GMT
Blowouts 2

LOL, just noticed in Orpington's "Accounts" page that their blowout penalty actually GAINED them
100K! Either I'm mis-reading things (which is perfectly possible) or something has gone wrong with
the blowout coding.


Stewart Miller
Teddybears F.C.

October 8th
07:31:10 GMT
Blowouts

There were a number of big score-lines in the first two rounds of The Manager Cup. I noticed that
some teams who lost by 6 goals or more and played less than 50% SL incurred blowout penalties
whereas other have not. Anybody know why?


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